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Week 1 Recap, Week 2 Preview, and Obviously, Belichick

NC State tried their hardest to lose to ECU but mercifully prevailed, while Virginia took Coastal Carolina to the slaughterhouse like a Tyson’s chicken plant.

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Good morning and welcome to 4th & Forever, Rand & Tate’s College Football Newsletter. Joe Paterno once mused, “You're never as good as you think you are when you win; and you're never as bad as you feel when you lose.” We don’t need to unpack the tragic irony as it relates to Joe Pa and Penn State, but we can apply it to the Week 1 results we saw across the country. We’re only 5% into the season, and we’ve already got vitriolic fanbases ready to fire their coach (hello, Alabama) and euphoric ones in Tallahassee and Miami proclaiming they’re back. Other fan bases are scratching their heads and having no idea what the hell they just witnessed - paging Wake Forest & Texas - and of course, we can’t go one week without coaches trading barbs behind the mic (Dabo v Brian Kelley & Mike Gundy v Dan Lanning). So let’s review Week 1 of college football with an asterisk because the ship that is college football has barely left port. Your season isn’t over (yet), your coach doesn’t have to be fired (yet), and it’s not time to bench your QB (yet). There’s always one exception to the rule, which we’ll get to. 

Week 1 Recap

The big shock of the day came in Tallahassee when Florida State stunned #8 Alabama by, frankly, putting belt to ass the way most of the country expected the -13.5 point favorites to do to the Seminoles. As we all know by now, this has created turmoil unlike anything we’ve seen in Tuscaloosa since pre-Saban. It’s not just that Bama lost to a team that went 2-10 last year. It’s not just that Kalen Deboer has now lost to four unranked opponents in one year and one game - the same number of unranked opponents Nick Saban lost to in his entire Alabama tenure. It’s that Bama got physically whipped on both sides of the ball, having players just jogging all over the place, while FSU went up and down the field on them. It was genuinely jarring to watch players in those uniforms, who we are so accustomed to seeing play with relentless physicality and effort even when winning by 30+ points, look like this. We’re now hearing anonymous boosters come out to highlight just how differently the program is being run by this staff compared to the previous one. It was just one game, and Bama has more than enough talent to get this thing turned around. But they'd better do it quickly because things are going to get a hell of a lot worse if Georgia does anything close to what FSU just did to them in three weeks in Athens. 

Arch Manning had his welcome to the show moment with a stinker against Ohio State as Texas lost 14-7. We’re not going to make sweeping declarations about a public figure (that’s coming later) because he’ll be fine in the long run. He ran into the defending national champs, on the road, in his first career start against a team not named Louisiana Monroe or Mississippi State. Ohio State played conservatively and will eventually let WR Jeremiah Smith cook, but the new #1 team in the land made a statement on Week 1. You won’t hear about either of these teams for a few weeks as they’ve got some cupcakes before conference play. A similar statement was made in Miami as they edged out Notre Dame 27-24. Miami out-talented Notre Dame and was more physical throughout which isn’t all that surprising. The shocker was Mario Cristobal guided the Canes through a controlled and competent final-minute drive that resulted in a game-winning field goal. Either Miami switched his radio to the equipment ops channel in the 4th quarter, or he is actively trying to win. Whatever it is, we’ll be monitoring this development moving forward.

Early Catch of the Year candidate from Miami WR CJ Daniels

In our final marquee game of the weekend, we saw LSU head to the other Death Valley and come away with a 17-10 victory over Clemson. LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier was a mainstay on preseason Heisman lists after a mediocre 2024 and three earlier years of doing squat for the Tigers, but he backed up the hype in a tough environment. Their defense was the story as LSU snapped its five-game season-opening losing streak and did so by making Clemson QB Cade Klubnik run for his life all night. It’s year three of the Garrett Riley OC experiment, and Clemson still hasn’t found a skill player worth a damn. That concern will dissipate once they get to ACC play, but if they make the playoff, they’ll need someone like Antonio Williams to stop getting injured and their other two 5-star sophomore WRs to step up. Everyone else held serve for the most part, aside from USF taking Boise State to the woodshed and becoming the early-season G5 playoff favorite. They have Miami and Florida in the next two weeks and will be heavily featured in this newsletter. Before we get to Billy B’s very bad day, here are 5 under-the-radar names to remember as the season progresses after they showed out in Week 1.

Utah QB Devon Dampier: New Mexico transfer had 206 yards passing, 87 rushing, and 3 total TDs as Utah smoked UCLA 43-10 in the Rose Bowl in Nico Iamaleava’s horrendous debut. 

Maryland QB Malik Washington: A true freshman and one of highest rated recruits to ever sign with the Terps put up 258 yards and 3 TDs in a 39-7 win over FAU.

Auburn QB Jackson Arnold: Remember all that talk about Auburn's receiving room being one of the best in the nation? Well, High Freeze seemingly turned this into a RPO offense with Arnold (107 passing yards on only 17 attempts but 137 yards on the ground). Auburn beat Baylor by 2 TDs, even with Bears QB Sawyer Robertson throwing for 417 yards and 3 TDs. 

Washington RB Jonah Coleman: We thought QB Demond Williams Jr. would be the story here (18/24 for 226 yards), but Coleman stole the show with 177 yards and 2 TDs over Colorado State. Watch out for the Huskies' offense - they’ve got UC Davis and Wazzu before Ohio State comes to town. 

Michigan RB Justice Haynes: 159 yards and 3 TDs for the Alabama transfer against New Mexico. They’ll need him next week in Norman as they bring QB Bryce Underwood along.

Bonus: Cal freshman QB Jaron-Keawe Sagapolutele (we’ll call him JKS moving forward) is another former top recruit who opted to transfer from Oregon after a solid 3 weeks in Eugene. In his first game against Oregon State, he had the highest graded game by a true freshman by PFF, beating out names like Caleb Williams, Brock Purdy, and Tua. He also made otherworldly throws like this one. And this one. Last one.

It’s only been 1 game, but we’re pretty confident that JKS will not be at Cal next year.

And Now, Bill Belichick

America loves a scandal, and there’s not a better one in college football right now than Bill Belichick at UNC. The highest-paid public employee in the state of North Carolina is robbing the flagship university right in front of our eyes. $10 million a year, a country club membership, and private jet access for THAT? There’s having a tough opening weekend, and then there’s getting embarrassed, annihilated, smoked on national TV with nowhere to hide. TCU showed up to the biggest Labor Day party in America and shut it down quicker than the ALE. There’s nothing UNC can do other than take that shellacking on the chin and move on. The inevitable next step in this process is admitting they were wrong; the only question is when that’ll happen is a big, fat unknown.

Is that too harsh or overreactive after one game? In short, nope! I said this when they hired him, too. Perhaps Bill Belichick deserved the benefit of the doubt from his time lording over the most successful pro sports dynasty since the 1960’s Boston Celtics, but all the red flags about this experiment were on full display Monday night. We saw an eerily similar situation of this play out in Jacksonville when the Jaguars hired Urban Meyer and then fired him after 13 games. Hindsight is 20/20, but it really wasn’t hard to see why hiring a coach who turned a blind eye to player misconduct, abuse allegations by his staff, with a management style of bending people to your will, wouldn’t work in an NFL locker room. While Belichick has a better moral compass than Meyer, should we focus on the walking red flag that is Jordon Hudson, his family and friends coaching staff, his age, nonexistent college experience, lack of motivation, or using UNC to write his own narrative of why he couldn’t get back into the NFL? It doesn’t matter really because I’m ready to declare it: the Bill Belichick experiment has been, currently is, and will continue to be an unmitigated failure. 

Carolina is going to be the belle of the ball in the early 2030’s when the Big 10 and SEC’s TV contracts are up. They have the academics, geography, fanbase, funding, and name recognition that Sankey and Pettiti drool over. The only thing they’ve been missing for their entire existence, save a few flashes in the pan and preseason hype, has been a reputable football team. Oh, but we prioritize basketball! Save it. If that were the case, we’d be talking about Duke being at the front of the line for conference realignment. There’s a reason Kansas is in the Big 12 while Mizzou got the SEC bid, and it has nothing to do with basketball. UNC’s Board of Trustees fired Mack Brown and stiff-armed AD Bubba Cunningham to take over this hiring process, which yielded the guy they wanted in Belichick. We’ve seen this movie at Tennessee and Auburn most notably, but this is the first time we’ve seen UNC and their BOT enter the SEC levels of chaos chat. 9 months ago, the president of the UNC School System curbed the BOT's influence because of their meddling in this hire. That should be welcome news to UNC fans and AD Bubba Cunningham, who might have to hire a new football and basketball coach in the next 9 months.

If Jon Sumrall (Tulane) or Matt Campbell (Iowa State) were the current head coach at UNC, we’d be writing something to the effect of “damn, that was embarrassing but check back in a year and they’re probably going to be good.” That’s because Campbell and Sumrall know how to run a college football program, recruit the portal, and assemble a staff. Belichick knows how to do none of those things, and it’s pretty obvious now that winning Super Bowls with Tom Brady does not help you figure out if you should take the OL transfer from Rice or Georgia Southern. Belichick’s coaching staff consists of his son, his other son, a former Patriots assistant and podcast host, his son, and a litany of other guys who are either in their first year of coaching at this level. Carolina will right the ship and clank their way to a 6-6 record and Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl appearance. Hell, 8-4 is very much on the table. Their schedule is littered with theoretical cupcakes, but they don’t need this public humiliation, a docuseries, and Bill Belichick to do that. Mack Brown did better that, the much maligned Gene Chizik could do that too. Sumrall and Campbell could do that and then some all for half of what they’re paying Bill. Would an extra $5 million have gotten basketball coach Nate Oats to leave Alabama?

In the end, maybe none of this matters and the SEC or Big 10 snatches them up to be human ragdolls for the Ohio States and Georgias of the world. Maybe they’ll get the next hire right, or maybe they won’t, and they’ll wander the college football wilderness for the next half-decade. At least their fanbase is used to it. 

If you disagree, want to yell at me, or simply comment on this or anything else we discuss, our inbox and comments are always open. We love hearing from you all. 

HOF material from a UNC tailgate last weekend

The One Week 2 Game to Watch

#15 Michigan (1-0) @ #18 Oklahoma (1-0): OU -5.5, O/U 46.5 - Saturday 7:30pm ET ABC

Officially Corso-less, College GameDay will be in town for the only top 25 matchup of the weekend. Sometimes they’ll spotlight a G5 or FCS school with this slate, but we don’t blame them for picking the obvious and only candidate of the week. All week and during the show, you’re going to hear the following names: Bryce Underwood, Sherrone Moore, Brent Venables, and John Mateer/Ben Arbuckle. 

Let’s start with Michigan head coach Sherrone Moore who took over after Jim Harbaugh won a natty and bolted to the NFL before the NCAA could catch him. Moore will be serving a 2-game self-imposed suspension starting next weekend thanks to said sign-stealing scandal. He’s notably here for this one due to the fact that he played at Oklahoma in the mid-2000s. Moore flipped one of the best QB prospects in the nation in Bryce Underwood from LSU, who has been compared to Cam Newton, thanks to his charm, offensive playcalling scheme, and tenacity on the recruiting trail. Definitely has nothing to do with the fact that the Oracle founder gave Underwood a $3 million/year NIL package. Putting aside Moore’s issues with the NCAA and Underwood’$ lifelong dream to don the maize and blue, they might be a terror in the coming years. Moore’s a young coach, but if you can turn JJ McCarthy into a first round pick, we’ll assume you’re Midas. Against New Mexico last week, Underwood was fine, protected the ball, and looked good but we’re not reading too much into it. If he’s as good as advertised, he’s got the perfect stage to announce his presence. 

On the flip side, we’ve got Brent Venables who is coaching for his job at Oklahoma. After a lifeless SEC debut mirrored by Texas going to the playoff again, Venables cleaned house and brought in a star-studded transfer class. Yet no acquisition will be as consequential as bringing in new OC Ben Arbuckle and his QB John Mateer from Washington State. Arbuckle is only 29 years old but has overseen some of the best offenses in the nation at Wazzu and before that, Western Kentucky. Mateer is a dual threat who racked up 44 TDs last year. Another bonus name to watch is RB Jaydn Ott, who spurned Cal after promising he’d come back…twice. He was injured and a non-factor last week, but Venables promised the former first-team Pac-12 RB would be good to go here. Venables finally has the defensive talent to match his most dominant Clemson teams, and he might be putting Underwood through the nine layers of hell on Saturday night in Norman.

Tate’s prediction: Oklahoma 20-13

Rand’s prediction: Oklahoma 31-17

OU QB John Mateer last week against the Redbirds

The Other Week 2 Games to Watch

The Week 2 slate outside of the game above is admittedly terrible, but that is no reason to tune out. Last year’s Week 2 slate was similarly dreadful but ended up shaking up the college football world when Northern Illinois went to Notre Dame and won. Things kick off this week as that same Northern Illinois program travels to take on Maryland (-17.5), who looks to have possibly found something in true freshman QB Malik Washington. James Madison will be in Louisville (-13.5) to take on the Cards in what has the potential to be the game of the evening, even though the NFL continues to step on CFB’s toes by putting a game on Friday night in Brazil. Eastern Washington, which plays on red turf, will be playing on blue turf at Boise State for some late-night #SickoMode action, if you’re into that sort of thing.

The Saturday noon slate is led by the Cy-Hawk game between Iowa and #16 Iowa State (-3.5) in the cleanest water capital of the world, Ames. Highly touted Iowa QB and potential NFL draft pick Mark Gronowski from South Dakota State fit into the Hawkeye offense like Cinderella and her slipper. He debuted with an 8/15 passing performance for 44 yards as Iowa mauled FCS Albany on the ground 34-7 last week. Kirk Ferentz will run freshman RB Xavier Williams into the ground, scrap out 7-8 wins, and then get a contract extension, but we were promised the offense will be better under Gronowski. Remains to be seen, but at this point in time, we fell for it…again. Over in Durham, Duke hosts #11 Illinois (-2.5), which might be one of the most consequential matchups of the year between two really good teams. Football has been played for 155 years, and humans have been around for another couple of hundred thousand, but I promise you that sentence like that has never been written, thought about, or dreamed of. Illinois and Duke looked fine in their tune-up FCS games, but the story will be Illinois QB Luke Altmeyer and Duke QB Darian Mensah. Illinois has taken the baton from UNC and NC State of previous years as the plucky team that looked good last year and is now a dark-horse playoff contender. We know how that worked out for the Carolina state schools, but Illinois has a defense and an experienced QB. They need a WR to step up for them. Speaking of the Wolfpack, NC State (-2.5) hosts Virginia at noon in a game that’ll fire up the hype machine for the winner. State tried their hardest to lose to ECU but mercifully prevailed, while Virginia took Coastal Carolina to the slaughterhouse like a Tyson’s chicken plant. Vying for your third screen attention will be Baylor traveling to #17 SMU (-2.5). The Bears looked good in a loss to Auburn, but a 0-2 start would be a disappointing start for one of the best QBs in the conference - Sawyer Robertson. SMU is looking to be 3-0 before an Iron Skillet showdown with TCU in a few weeks.

Last year, Iowa State drilled a 54-yarder to beat Iowa

The slate is pretty front-loaded in terms of playoff implications, but the 3:30pm ET slate doesn’t lack drama. First, #6 Oregon’s Dan Lanning and Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy have been bitching about one another like a middle school girl’s group chat. Lanning won the battle and will probably win the war, given they are 4 TD favorites. Elsewhere, we’ve got literal blood on our hands with the return of the Border War between Kansas and Missouri (-6.5). In Kansas’ and Mizzou’s three combined games against the Sisters of the Poor, they’re 3-0, but if Kansas QB Jalon Daniels is officially back from injury, it’d behoove him to show it here. Kansas will need to contain Mizzou QB Beau Pribula, who showed off surprising wheels last week. Looking ahead, Mizzou drew a manageable SEC schedule that looks even better with whatever you want to call Alabama’s performance. This won’t be the last time we’re hearing from them. Kentucky hosts #20 Ole Miss (-9.5), which might be a coming-out party for Rebels QB Austin Simmons against a sieve of a Wildcats defense and even worse offense. 

This might require emergency screen time if it’s close in the 4th, but keep your eye on Rich Rod and West Virginia (-3.5) heading to Ohio. If you forgot Rich Rod was back in the holler, we don’t blame you, but a road loss to a MAC school would be an ominous start to a lauded return.  At 4:15pm ET, we get USF heading to the Swamp to take on QB DJ Lagway and the Gators (-17.5). Vegas doesn’t have high hopes here, but Bulls QB Byrum Brown is a wrecking ball, and head coach Alex Golesh is one of the best offensive playcallers in the game. Last week in their beatdown of Boise, the Bulls forced three turnovers while Brown added two scores on the ground. Don’t say we (Tate) didn’t warn you here Gators.

Rich Rod’s first stint with QB Pat White

To buoy the game of the day in the primetime slate, UNC (-13.5) heads to Charlotte to atone for their sins while #12 Arizona State (-6.5) is in Starkville to take in the cowbells and Mississippi State. They’re flying under the radar thus far, even with a playoff appearance last year, but QB Sam Leavitt is still around, and like we mentioned with Kansas’ Jalon Daniels, are you still legit, or are we living in the past? Virginia Tech (-1.5) brings Vandy to Lane Stadium after losing excruciatingly last year and kickstarting the Diego Paivia hype train. Hokies coach Brent Pry needs a victory like a fish needs water or Trump needs hand makeup. Close out your Week 2 with the rest of Rocky Top, who will be tuning into UCLA (-2.5) visiting UNLV and seeing if Nico and squad are really that bad and they can officially say they won the breakup. Schedule looks and feels bleak, but we promise you something batshit is going to happen this weekend. 

Holding Ourselves Accountable & Week 2 Picks

Tate’s Great Picks 

Last Week: 2-3

Oregon -28.5 vs Oklahoma State

Ole Miss -9.5 @ Kentucky

USC -28.5 vs Georgia Southern

Iowa State -3 vs Iowa

UTSA -4 vs Texas State

Missouri -6.5 vs Kansas

OnlyRans

Last Week: 4-3

Iowa +3.5 @ Iowa State and game total Under 41.5: Each of the last three CyHawks has been decided by less than a TD with the road team winning all three.

Ole Miss -9.5 @ Kentucky: UK struggled to put away Toledo last week and now has to deal with Lane Kiffin and their hotshot QB Austin Simmons. Name to remember…

Hawai’i -6.5 v Sam Houston State: By the time this game ends, it’ll be 2am CT for the Bearkats, and Hawai’i already beat Stanford. Give me the fighting Timmy Changs at home. 

Oklahoma -5.5 v Michigan and game total Over 44.5: Pushing my chips into the table on Brent Venables stymying Michigan QB Bryce Underwood and Sooner QB John Mateer leading a blowout here. Venables needs this badly.

Texas Tech -48.5 v Kent State: Red Raiders hung 67 on an FCS team last weekend and now welcome the worst FBS team in the country. 

UNLV +2.5 v UCLA; Duke +2.5 v Illinois; Baylor +2.5 v SMU; Virginia +2.5 v N.C. State: This is not a parlay (at least on my end) and will count as 4 separate picks, but we’ve got four high-level games here that Vegas essentially sees as toss-ups. We’re not deep enough into the season to confidently make bold predictions here, so I’ll roll with the computers still having a significant amount of weight on preseason expectations and hammer the underdogs across the board. 

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Wake Forest & Georgia

Georgia 45 - Marshall 7: I mentioned that I probably wouldn’t spend too much time breaking things down with these first two games, and there’s not a ton that happened in week 1 that warrants a change in that approach. The offense got off to a hot start, with touchdowns on three of their first four possessions, and the defense seemed to be playing with an energy and aggressiveness that just seemed to be missing last year. The defensive line looked remarkably more athletic and twitchy with some new blood in there, led by Christen Miller and Jordan Hall, a third-year player who flashed as a freshman but dealt with injuries throughout 2024. Five-star freshman Elijah Griffin also played a ton of snaps and already looks like he might be the next UGA great on the DL. All of this allowed the unbelievable linebacking corps to make quick decisions and just fly to the ball, something they struggled to do at times last year, seemingly because of the lack of consistency on the DL in front of them. Junior Raylen Wilson looks like he’s finally ready to live up to his hype in goofy athleticism - he was an animal on Saturday. Sophomore Chris Cole looks like he’s going to be a freak, too.

Offensively, I thought things were pretty encouraging despite us pretty clearly wanting to put nothing intricate on tape. Noah Thomas and Colbie Young both only had one target each, while Zach Branch only had three targets, and two of them were screens, but still had about 100 yards and a TD - he is electric and changes this offense singlehandedly. Dwight Phillips Jr., who has a verified 4.28 40 time, was the talk of the RB room. He scored the first TD of the season and looked much bigger, but just as fast, as he did as a freshman. I mentioned freshman monster OL Juan Gaston in our preview last week, who did end up getting the start, and he looked incredible before going out early with an ankle injury (which thankfully doesn’t seem too serious). 

Overall, we’re just not going to know a ton about this team until we head to Knoxville and play the Vols in nine days. But there seems to be a renewed energy on both sides of the ball, and I think we have a few under-the-radar studs waiting and ready to make a name for themselves on the national stage here early this season. Gunner can clean some things up - primarily batted balls at the line of scrimmage - but again, we just weren’t trying to do anything crazy against Marshall, and certainly won’t be against Austin Peay on Saturday. This team remained remarkably healthy through camp and their first game, and that is my primary concern until we get to Knoxville.

Austin Peay (1-0) @ #4 Georgia (1-0): No odds available - Saturday 3:30pm ET ESPN+

Things I’m looking for: Hit a couple deep shots. Pitch a shutout. Do not get injured. 

Wake Forest 10 - Kennesaw State 9: What in the hell did I just watch? Remember that glorious 7-play 83-yard opening drive for UNC against TCU, then TCU figured out their offensive scheme, made adjustments, and didn’t allow another point for the next 2 hours? That’s mainly because TCU had zero concept or idea of what UNC was going to run, so they played their safe, basic defense. Well, that’s exactly what happened in Winston, as both Wake & Kennesaw marched down the field on their first possessions to score a TD, and aside from a field goal each later on, nothing else happened offensively. Kennesaw’s defensive coordinator, Marc Mattioli, was coaching the Paris Musketeers last year (yes, that Paris), so I’ll give Wake a break for not knowing his defensive tendencies. However, it was painfully obvious their entire offensive game plan was built around RB Demond Claiborne, which all goes to hell once he comes out of the game on the first drive and only comes back in for a celeb shot a few drives later before shutting it down for the day (rib injury). 

Sunset was pretty at least

QB Robby Ashford didn’t turn the ball over and had some dropped balls, but he has to play better, plain and simple. There were penalties throughout, including a boneheaded personal foul by Ashford, which cannot happen when you’ve been in college since before COVID. Kennesaw State dared Wake to beat them on the ground, which is really hard without the best player on the field, and Ashford seemingly has a case of happy feet in the pocket. 

If there isn’t marked improvement by the end of the first half against a Western Carolina defense that just allowed 627 total yards and 52 points in a loss to Gardner Webb, then there should be a quick hook in favor of Deshawn Purdie. Or go full-blown Georgia Tech and run freshman Steele Pizzella until his legs fall off. Dickert understandably won’t say if Claiborne is playing, but do we want him to? We’ve got NC State on a short week, followed by a bye. Sit him and win another clunker if you have to. Trial by fire. 

Aside from the senseless penalties, holds, and offensive malpractice by the Deacs, there were a few encouraging things I saw. First, WR Chris Barnes. He’s listed at 5’7 168lbs but I’m guessing he’s smaller than that. He’s the closest thing we’ve seen to Greg Dortch since Greg Dortch and OC Rob Ezell seems keen on trying to get him the ball anyway he can. Keep doing that. On the defensive line, Gabe Kirschke and Jayden Loving combined for 2 sacks and 3 TFLs as the secondary held the Owls to 307 total yards. 

Burn the tape, move on with a dub, make adjustments, do whatever you have to do, but I will not be flying out to Oregon, driving to Charlottesville, or having my emotional well-being depend on performances like that this entire year. 

Western Carolina (0-1) @ Wake Forest (1-0): No odds available - Saturday 2:00pm ET ESPN+

Things I’m looking for: Hit a couple deep shots. Pitch a shutout. Do not get injured. None of which happened against Kennesaw State. But seriously, figure out the QB play, please, so we’re not run off the field by NC State next week. Go Deacs. 

Email of the Week

“Bring back texts of the week” - Eli Shankman

Texts of the Week

“You know Rand’s saying some outrageous stuff in a random UNC groupchat sitting in the dark under a Wake Forest blanket with a TCU hat on laughing so loud” - Joe G

“Tired: Nepo baby QB’s (Arch). Wired: Nepo baby O-Linemen (Bobo)” - Alex S

“Stetson Bennett beat this school 65-7 just saying.” - Sam W during the UNC game

“This episode is going to be great in the docuseries.” - Taylor M on UNC

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Rand & Tate met a few years ago through a mutual friend who went to college with Rand and high school with Tate. Tate went to Georgia and has spent the last few years collecting championship rings while traveling to watch the Dawgs. Rand went to known CFB powerhouse Wake Forest, and currently pays rent in Charlotte, but is rarely found there with all the work & CFB travel he does.

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